hey everyone!!
i hope everyone is doing good today.
i don't share or comment often, but i'm in the mood to do that today.
Interesting. I keep waiting for an email from one of my old friends.
The last time I called her, I said, "Sharon?" She replied, "there is no one by that name here"
Months later, after being inspired by this quote, I sent her an email with only this quote in the"re:" line "In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"
Came the reply, "Everything has a price" We make our own choices. Your friends have never left you. 'Anne Bishop'
What nerve, hmmm?
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/another-judge-criticizes-jehovahs-witnesses-court-tactics/.
another judge criticizes jehovahs witnesses court tactics.
by trey bundy / january 11, 2016 .
This judge figured out exactly how this "Watchtower dog hunts." When did WT file it's claim that 'it's just too inconvenient for our witnesses to travel to PA?
Judge Jenkins points out that the WT waited until THE NIGHT BEFORE THE TRIAL to file a " forum non conveniens” … even though the defendants had come to give their depositions the day before, without complaint.
“The Court added: “A transfer petition should not be a tool by which a defendant may forestall litigation in the underlying case by generating litigation concerning the transfer petition.”3
Pg 16 “the Congregations (WT & witnesses) “Delayed filing their motion to transfer and supporting affidavits from four witnesses until the eve of trial – after the witnesses had appeared without objection for their depositions in Montgomery County, just twenty miles from center City Philadelphia”
"Transfer to York County could significantly delay trial, a troubling possibility given that trial was scheduled to begin in PA just two weeks after the court granted the Congregations’ motion for transfer…”
"The facts strongly suggest that the motion to transfer venue was the product of bad-faith collaboration between the Congregations and the four York County Witnesses”.
Pg 17 The Congregations’ motion for transfer was not to avoid oppression……. But was a last-minute gambit to delay trial.”
Thanks to all who keep up the hard work of getting the real facts! Trey Bundy, Barbara Anderson, Irwin Zalkin, Steven Unthank & all the rest!!!
another thread got me thinking of this issue.
i don't think you'll ever come across a set of people with such a skewed and twisted outlook on life.. my memory serves me well when i recall a sort of blood lusting excitement over things like the 9/11 atrocities.
in fact i remember jw's describing the event as 'sad but exciting.
so went to the meeting last night.
i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).
besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.
Remember when these songbooks came out? The music was just 'off'.... when you thought it would go up? it went down.... Like having a 2/4 tempo then change to 3/4...
My son described it as trying to spell a word, and spelling it wrong... Thinking you can sing, and you can't... He nailed it when he said, "Like elevator music, or music you'd hear at the DMV!"
i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.
it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.
its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.
..to think about how the congregations actually function....even down to the individual level.. the biggest bully on the boe (or his wife), controls the show.. ones within the congregation are treated like they're dirt and still they return.
stockholm syndrome?.
i've heard ones say that 'jehovah(tm) will sort it all out.
Absolutely, Flipper....... Next time I hear, "Jehovah will take care of it in his due time" I will reply, "that is just an excuse for people not doing the right thing." "Determinism" "Kill 'em all, (Armaggedon) let God sort them out"
It's time to learn a new way of thinking.
is this true?
has anyone heard of it?
saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.
recent developments make me think they might be.
the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.
one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.
I tried to read all of this, having a hard time because of work, but...
Has anyone thought of this idea?
WT is selling K Halls, taking extra congregation accounts, closing Bethels, letting people go, selling property......... are they getting ready to act like they are bankrupt? (Maybe they are trying to do what the Catholic Church did? 'Sorry Australia, we have no money')
Maybe the guys in the backround are getting ready to split?
so, all of us have probably heard a lot of urban miracle legends over the years in the org.here's one from outside the org.years ago, i worked with this lady.
she was my supervisor.
we liked having discussions on god and the bible.
hello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.
that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.
that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.
NoraLee, you have to know how happy you have made so many of us feel.... You too, redpilltwice!
It seems the grip of WT is getting weaker and weaker, thanks for joining and giving us hope of even more to come! This forum is great to express yourself on, explore new ideas, seek help.
Congratulations & hugs to both of you!
